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In episode 233 (Our Voices #44) of the Say It Skillfully® podcast, Molly sits down with Thando
Lamula—Chartered Tax Advisor, board chair, and Mrs. Africa—for a raw conversation about
what it really takes to find and use your voice, even after outward success.

Thando shares her extraordinary path: growing up on a sunflower farm in South Africa,
navigating two faiths at once, and earning the nickname “General” in university for her
fearlessness. She built a career in tax law—finishing her master’s degree with her newborn
daughter waiting in the car outside night class so she could slip out to breastfeed—and has
since chaired boards, won awards, and been crowned Mrs. Africa.

But Thando opens up about the six years she spent staying silent, even as everyone around her
called her fearless. She shares what changed after reading Say It Skillfully and attending
INSEAD, and the courage—and consequences—that came with finally speaking up for herself.

Honest and hard-won, this episode is a reminder that being fearless for everyone else is not the
same as being fearless for yourself—and that the second kind is the one that changes your life.

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